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Manga to REALISTIC: part TEN by FOERVRAENGD Manga to REALISTIC: part TEN by FOERVRAENGD
HERE'S MY PERSONAL BEST RESOURCES TO KNOW MORE ABOUT LIGHT AND SHADOWS, PLEEEAAAAASE CHECK THESE LINKS BEFORE ASKING ME STUFF I DIDN'T COVER:
[link]
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[link] all three made by awesome :iconfox-orian:


And here's the link to get Andrew Loomis' books as a .PDF-file: [link]

okay enough with the caps...

MOAR TUTORIALS/GUIDES:

PIGMENTS AND PIXELS:
Part 1:[link]
Part 2: [link]
Part 3: [link]

MANGA to REALISTIC:
Part 1: [link]
Part 2: [link]
Part 3: [link]
Part 4: [link]
Part 5: [link]
Part 6: [link]
Part 7: [link]
Part 8: [link]
Part 9: [link]
Part 10: [link]
Part 11: [link]
Part 12: [link]

UNDERSTANDING ANATOMY:
Part 1: [link]
Part 2: [link]
Part 3: [link]
Part 4: [link]
Part 5: [link]


And no sorry if I didn't cover "shading hair" and stuff like that, READ THE HAIR TUTORIAL ABOUT THE "LAYERS" AND DO THE THINKING YOURSELF!:heart: :3
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:iconiamkathybrown:
iamkathybrown Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Say, I don't know if you're still answering questions on this, but I do a comic with pens and I don't know how to use cross hatching for it. I tried cross hatching, but just look at this comic:iamkathybrown.deviantart.com/a…
What did I do wrong?
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DragonFlame123 Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Wow this series is very helpful, thank you!
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Enbi-to-Miruku Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2013  Student General Artist
Yes yes yes! Finally! I've always wanted to create shapes with light and sha- ah, I mean, the values, instead of just drawing lineart. Gosh it's so not easy, but you already made it a tad easier so I must do my best x3

by the way, somehow, that 'smiley object' of yours looks really creepy to me 0.0
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:iconfoervraengd:
FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Mar 6, 2013  Professional General Artist
that smiley object might be a case of "uncanny vally" effect perhaps? ;)
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SweetJustABit Featured By Owner Sep 3, 2012
I downloaded the books by Andrew Loomis.
They helped me a lot.
Thanks for providing the link ^^
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NicoleVanessa Featured By Owner Jul 15, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i have to say i totaly love your tutorials !! there are so helpful !
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darkside-ky Featured By Owner Jun 15, 2012
When you say "Don't waste your time trying to make your drawing identical to the object you observe", it makes me a bit confused.

Ever since the art classes I've taken in college and high school, I've had a hard time mentally working my way around the concept of values.

I've always taken an object AND it's values as ONE thing...that's why it feels confusing. I suppose you can draw the same object and give it different light values, but that's hard to visualize mentally in art composition unless you have an adjustable light source.

Often times my friends say my work is rushed...and while I like things that are glossy (read: shiny)...sometimes there's too much gloss and it becomes unrealistic or has no depth to it...can you maybe give me some advice for "making your own compositions" in terms of value? Like, what limitations there are to light and what's considered "too much light" or "too much shadow" resulting in a flat surface?
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:iconfoervraengd:
FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Jun 19, 2012  Professional General Artist
I don't really have the time right now to help you with your problem, however, if you're looking for help to avoid "flat" values, then this guide might help you: [link] it covers mostly digital art, but a lot of what is said in the guide applies to traditional artists as well.
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circusclownx Featured By Owner May 8, 2012  Student Digital Artist
i love all ur tutorials thnx 4 making them :)
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:iconaymiah:
aymiah Featured By Owner Apr 7, 2012
can I just say I love you for referencing "this is not a pipe" c:
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Dark-Sunlight72 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2012
WEE SUNRAYS!!!!
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:iconzexion-for-tea:
Zexion-For-Tea Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Do you shade a girl in the same places you shade a guy?
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:iconfoervraengd:
FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2011  Professional General Artist
yes?
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Zexion-For-Tea Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Okay Thanks.:)
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yellowflowerevy Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011  Student General Artist
orz i am almost done reading this and i cant help but orz. i had planed on doing something very similar to this as a way to help people learn how to draw correctly , but upon finding this i have to admit i feel like there is no need now. I was wondering what you feel on the matter and also wanted to tell you that you did great Awesome work!!! ...well anyways have a great day
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:iconfoervraengd:
FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Sep 5, 2011  Professional General Artist
You know what? Go on and do it anyway!
I think there cannot be too much tutorials about the same subject. Don't feel like your idea is a waste just because someone else came up with the same concept! And also, you maybe have other things to mention as well that I might have forgot to do. Like making it a bit more advanced - or maybe more adapted to beginners. So no orz-ing here! :heart:
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Meduteja Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I love your tutorials. :) Thank you for them!
I wanted to ask something. ^^; When I draw a face of a specific person,it doesn't look like the person I want to draw...How can I make the faces look a like?

Sorry if that's a silly question. ._.
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:iconfoervraengd:
FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2011  Professional General Artist
"I wanna draw a certain face but it doesn't turn out anything like it"
uhm... that's a question I cannot answer. Try to be more specific, what is it that goes wrong? Is it the composition, the STYLE? The characteristics? It is a pretty hard question.
I can tell you this though: None of my paintings turned out like how i first imagined them in my head.
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:iconmeduteja:
Meduteja Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Well what I mean is the face features. :)
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:iconfoervraengd:
FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2011  Professional General Artist
make a list of what facial features the character has, go through everything such as facial shape (oval, diamond, square etc), ethnical features (caucasian, asian, african, mixed etc) gender and age.

You have to be more specific. I cannot provide you all answers.
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:iconmeduteja:
Meduteja Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you very much! :heart: That was enough. :hug:
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:iconfoervraengd:
FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Aug 28, 2011  Professional General Artist
okay :) glad to hear!
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:iconjunixz:
JuniXz Featured By Owner Aug 27, 2011  Student General Artist
You're a genius. ;;__;;
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:iconrinawolf:
RinaWolf Featured By Owner Aug 18, 2011
You have opened my eyes with all of your tutorials. I thankyou, my friend. You have given me inspiration to try my hand at developing my own sense of realism.
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EriksBlue Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2011  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I was able to buy Loomis's head and hands book in my freshman year of highschool from the school its pretty beat up but still i'm happy i found something this rare.
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BlazingCoral Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2011  Student General Artist
Oooooh, this is nice! I remember learning all this stuff in my art classes... It took me a few semesters before I really started pushing my darks, though. It's amazing how much more depth it can give a piece!
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xLilyOfTheValley Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2011  Student General Artist
Wow! I thought I knew quite a lot about these things already, but after reading your tuts i feel like such a... noob. I learned SO much from this! I would fav them all twice if I could! :D Good job!!
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Solardeus Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2011
Respect, really :) These tutorials really taught me something. Very well done! =D
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RoCueto Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2011  Professional Digital Artist
Nice tutorial. A good advice I tella anyone who asks me about it is to drop anime and manga styles as soon as they can and delve deeply into naturalism. This helps you be a better artist and it's infinitely easier to learn to stylize the figure than to naturalize the symbol.
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pseudothetic Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Your tutorials are so helpful! I would like to see something about drawing eyebrows. I can't figure out how to make them look realistic opposed to colored blocks like in anime or fuzzy worms lol
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:iconfoervraengd:
FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Aug 16, 2011  Professional General Artist
I shall remember that, I have a nifty technique when I fill my eyebrows when doing makeup - it works the same way when drawing!
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pseudothetic Featured By Owner Aug 17, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Thanks!
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sgtcarrotop Featured By Owner Aug 15, 2011
MFW
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:iconzhurskar:
zhurskar Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Student General Artist
you bet I bang my head to get the shading right. thks for the share. I'll try it when I get some free time =)
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happyhappy167 Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
:D
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SonicWolvelina99 Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Hobbyist General Artist
Great tutorial! :3
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ArienSmith Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
-laughs- The beginning? That was based of Scott McCloud's book Understanding Comics, right? It's a fantastic book!
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:iconfoervraengd:
FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Professional General Artist
*applauds*

I was hoping someone would catch that. It's an awesome book!
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:iconariensmith:
ArienSmith Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Professional Traditional Artist
-bows- XD

It really is, I just read it (my illustration pre-college professor recommended it) and since I just started a new web comic it's been one of the best books I've ever read. It really makes you think~

Also, these tutorials are really great, btw.
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Kiborg-Graph Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
A very useful tutorial - it gives me nice insight on some advanced shading, sadly, my computer decides himself, when and when not to let me see this tutorial. :( God, computer, why you no let me learn the shading? :iconwhyyounoplz:
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:iconfoervraengd:
FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Professional General Artist
it's called "Values" ;)
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:iconkiborg-graph:
Kiborg-Graph Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:iconconfusedplz: Yes, I guess I'm still a beginner, if I still use the term "shading", when refering to values, it's just that I'm used to compliment everybody on the shadow depiction in their works. :D
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:iconfoervraengd:
FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Professional General Artist
Yeah, I'm used to say "shading" as well. But that's because everyone says that except professional artists (and by that I mean those who work a lot with values in their paintings like concept artists for example)

Light and values are easier to understand if think in terms of "adding light" instead of "adding shading"
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Kiborg-Graph Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I see, I just thought that the term "value" was more of a digital art term - sure, I've encountered it on Photoshop several dozen times, but I didn't think so far that the "value" was also a term, used for the traditional artworks.
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:iconfoervraengd:
FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Professional General Artist
What? Srsly? Dude, Values and hues has existed for a pretty long time, way older than digital art :P
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:iconkiborg-graph:
Kiborg-Graph Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I don't doubt this fact, I guess it's just because I never paid too much attention to shadows, values and hues - I mean, I know what they are, but I've never successfully applied them in any of my works, which is why I got a little confused. :shrug:
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dieingcity Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011
for having to run something that takes much longer to explain and to teach in person, I think you did a smashing job!- I really love your way of explaining values...its something people tend to have a hard time grasping...bravo ;D
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FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Professional General Artist
Yeah, I didn't understand values until recently... :'D
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dieingcity Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011
They can be very tricky i recall a lot of people in my class at college just not getting it and i couldn't really understand why..my problem though wasn't understanding - it was being able to not want to use such similar values lol
I was always corrected for that ^_^
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FOERVRAENGD Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2011  Professional General Artist
I've wanted to understand values since I wanna work as a concept artist - and that requires fast delivering of good paintings. And understanding values saves a lot of time and effort.
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